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Post  Phat Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:41 pm

woodie board epoxy coated VS woodie board with fiber coated both sides? kung sa tibay pag uusapan ano pipiliin mo? almost same price.. inputs naman mga idol sensya na naguguluhan na ko. btw, im planning to order this board on July 15 para sa skimtrip natin. Thanks in advance Smile
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Post  Strange 1 Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:46 pm

fiber coated ka tol if you ask me...

epoxy coated board ko nung una... ang friend ko, fiber coated... his board lasted longer than mine...

or baka mas grabe lng cya mag ride compared sa akin... Very Happy
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Post  choiboards Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:14 pm

ok i will explain..

epoxy resin coated boards are ok at first.pero sa katagalan as the board gets bend back as you ride it yung molecular structure ng epoxy tends to loose.kaya sa katagalan you will notice small cracks on your board at isa pa yung tubig papasok sa wood kaya sa katagalan yung board mo parang bumibigat na and will break easily.in terms of friction during riding mas mataas ang water friction niya.na notice ko yan 2 years ago pinag compare ko yung glass and epoxy they have the same weight and dimension pina test ko sa isang skimmer then iv'e notice that glass boards are more smoother on the sand compare to epoxy coated. and yung pinaka worse na epoxy is yung polytuff kasi yung polytuff water based habang nababasa lumalambot does creating huge amount of friction.

in terms sa glass naman its more smoother than epoxy and yung glass d basta2x na chi chip off compare sa epoxy.in terms naman sa cracks glass don't create small cracks because once its has a crack it forms only one line of crack kaya madali mo makikita and repair it easily.sa durability mas ok ang glass ( FRP = FIBER REINFORCED PLASTICS )

yan lang masasabi ko sa 3 year experience ko sa pagawa ng board at pag skim ko.


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Post  wipeoutkid Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:17 am

tama ka nga choi.. madaling masira ang epoxy coated.. pero magdepende din yan siguro sa klase ng plywood..
ngayon kasi di most of the amrine plywoods di na maganda ang quality, madaling magcrack pag nababasa..
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Post  seacielo Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:31 am

epoxy? eerrr... Rolling Eyes
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Post  choiboards Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:06 am

yup yung mga ordinary marine wood ngayon d na katulad ng dati na mas matigas at mas compact yung wood.kaya ngayon ang ginagamit ko na wood for my boards is santa clara na brand midyo mahal lng konti.kasi design talaga ito na marine wood for small boats.
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Post  boynegro Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:36 pm

yap madaling masira epoxy,,,un bago kung boar.d nga na chipan na agad
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Post  wipeoutkid Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:13 am

yeah santa clara talaga ang matibay na plywood.. mahal lang.. d2 sa cebu ang 1 ply ay 1k plus..
mahirap bang gumawa ng rocker sa santa clara? baka masyado ng matigas ang plywood?
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Post  maykel andyelo Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:18 pm

ginagamit ordinary na santa clara tas coat na ng fiberglass.....matibay sya...
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Post  teji101 Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:56 am

ang epoxy resin ay mas stiff pero mas brittle (kasi mas stiff kasi siya), ang polyester resin ay mas flexible kaya medyo nagtotolerate siya ng bending. kung ako papapiliin, epoxy resin ung gusto ko kung usapang resin na kung ano ung magsosoak ng fiberglass kasi mas stiff siya. pero sa usapan natin ngyon parang nararamdaman ko na pagsabihin nating "epoxy" ay wala ung fiberglass cloth.. syempre yung "fiberglass" (na pagkakaintindi natin kasi ung polymer plus fibercloth un).

in summary,kung halimbawa parehong magsosoak ng fibercloth aside sa density ng foam na compatible na paglalagyan..seryoso mas matibay ung epoxy resin. kung epoxy resin (walang fiber cloth) versus "fiberglass" (fibercloth soaked in polymer resin) syempre "fiberglass" na ako. mas matibay yun sa usapang weight to tensile strength ratio.

sa point of view ng composite materials, yung resin kasi parang cement yan at yung fiber cloth ay yung steel bar sa mga poste ng construction. steel bar (o fiber cloth para sa skimboard) ay para sa stensile strength, cement (o resin) para sa compression.




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Post  Phat Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:36 am

grabe papa teej Need help guys Nosebleedaa7 ako Laughing
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Post  teji101 Sat Jul 19, 2008 10:11 pm

ako din e.. d ko rin maintindihan. lol! nakainom kasi ako kgabi kaya wasak wasak ung mga posts ko. hehehe

mas matibay ang epoxy resin pang soak ng fiber cloth...pero brittle sya. un lnag naman ibig kong sabihin e. hehehe
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